Zack Snyder won’t look back: ‘There’s been no other Superman movies’ [Updated]

March 16, 2011 | 6:01 p.m.

Zack Snyder (Warner Bros.)

When Bryan Singer took moviegoers to Metropolis in the 2006 film “Superman Returns,” he paid careful homage to the hero’s cinematic past. Don’t expect that approach from Zack Snyder, who on Wednesday shared his guiding principle: “Respect the canon but don’t be a slave to the movies.”

Snyder’s version of the Man of Steel is scheduled to reach theaters in December 2012 with Henry Cavill in the title role, and the director said that this will be the first modern Superman feature that will truly break from Richard Donner’s landmark 1978 film, which shared its star,  Christopher Reeve, with three sequels and then also deeply informed Singer’s 2006 film, which put Brandon Routh in the iconic blue tights but tapped into both style and story elements from the work of Donner and Reeve.

“Literally, the one thing that everyone can start to think about is that we’re making a movie that finally goes with the approach that there’s been no other Superman movies,” Snyder said. “If you look at  ‘Batman Begins,’ there’s that structure: there’s the canon that we know about and respect, but on other hand there’s this approach that pre-supposes that there haven’t been any other movies.  In every aspect of design and of story, the whole thing is very much from that perspective of ‘Respect the canon but don’t be a slave to the movies.’”

Superman by Jim Lee (DC Comics)

I mentioned to Snyder that in hindsight the Singer film might have been boxed in by the past and too tentative — the movie seemed at times like a cautious curator trying to move around among fragile museum pieces. “Yeah, and we’re not afraid of that at all,” Snyder said. “Our Superman, he’s got things to figure out, but he’s a physical cat.”

Snyder’s next film, “Sucker Punch,” which he co-wrote with Steve Shibuya, opens in theaters on March 25. The filmmaker is in intense preparations now for the Superman revival (it will likely be titled “Man of Steel” but that decision isn’t final yet), which will begin shooting soon with a script by David S. Goyer. The cast will also include Diane Lane as Martha Kent.

[Updated at 7:23 p.m.: A previous version of this post listed Kevin Costner as a cast member, but his involvement with the project has only been rumored.]

Henry Cavill will be Superman (Warner Bros.)

On further casting Snyder would say only: “There’s more to come and I think it’s consistent in its … awesomeness.”

I told Snyder I was interested to see how he and his wife and producing partner, Debbie Snyder, would collaborate with the producer team of Christopher Nolan and Emma Thomas – another married couple who have put themselves at the center of the Warner Bros. present and future when it comes to blockbuster ventures. Nolan, of course, directed the two most recent Batman films, which many people consider the pinnacle of superhero cinema, while Thomas has been the producer of every Nolan film, including last year’s “Inception,” which was nominated for the best picture Oscar.

“It’s been really great,” Snyder said of the collaboration so far. “Chris is awesome. He’s super-respectful but super-helpful, too. You can’t imagine a more generous [collaborator] … once he sort of got what I want to do with it, he was like, ‘OK,’ and once he said, ‘You know what, that’s awesome,’ now he’s 100%. If I say, ‘What do you think of this?’ he’s like, ‘That’s awesome,’ and then there’s a great give-and-take about it, a great conversation that we can have about it and making it better every day. And by the way, he’s hilarious too.”

Snyder said he can’t contain his excitement when he considers the paradox of Superman at this point in time — as the first signature superhero, the character has an unrivaled legacy and appeal, but as far as live-action film goes, the Donner version and Singer’s spin-off define Superman for contemporary moviegoers (although Kirk Alyn and George Reeves also flew across the silver screen in the 1940s and 1950s).

Christopher Reeve as Superman

Christopher Reeve in the 1981 film "Superman II" (Los Angeles Times archive)

“Superman is the one constant in the universe,” Snyder said. “You know that if you do Superman right — or at least if you do him with respect — you know you end up with something great. … [but] in some ways [beyond] that is virgin territory. No one knows what that is. In some ways Superman is the most recognizable superhero on the planet but also the most unknown. Just what he can be? People have preconceived ideas about him but probably all of them are wrong.”

I asked if Snyder had anything he could share about the costume that Cavill will wear.  “I can’t say — although I appreciate the question. I’d love to talk about it. We’re going to have to show it before we shoot, probably a while before that because [otherwise] someone will be on the set and get a picture of it.”

Snyder sounded a bit weary, and that’s no surprise considering the impending release of “Sucker Punch” and the world-class pressure of getting Superman off the ground for Warner Bros. I asked if he ever looks at the size of the task and gets intimidated by the sheer scale of it. “It is epic. But you just start with page 1, shot 1 and the next thing you know, you’re in it. And then you can’t go back. It’s the journey of 1,000 steps, as they say.”

– Geoff Boucher

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Comments


102 Responses to Zack Snyder won’t look back: ‘There’s been no other Superman movies’ [Updated]

  1. Joe says:

    So Henry Cavill will actually be playing Henry Clark Kent.

    • Sarita says:

      1) Ahh, Smallville reference. Nice.

      2) Although, I appreciate the reference I don't think it's totally fair. The movies have contributed to canon but they are not the medium that Snyder should be using as a referencce. Superman is re-invented for every generation and as long as Snyder stays true to the basic concepts first established in the comics all those years ago (honest values, Lois Lane, Jonathan, Martha, etc,) I think we'll be just fine. :)

  2. Brett says:

    I'm glad Snyder's making a break with the past. While nods to previous movies were fun and nostalgic and littered ten years of "Smallville" episodes, and were even present in Donner's 1978 film and Singer's "Superman Returns" (Noel Neill appeared in both), it's time for a fresh start. People will say, "Oh, Christopher Reeve is the one and only Superman," or, "I can't see anybody but Tom Welling in the part." Well folks, that's unfair to every other actor who's donned the suit, and you need to give Snyder and Cavill a chance to present us with their Superman.

  3. Knossos says:

    Thank goodness. Now if only he would say the same thing about the comic books. If people wanted a motion comic, they'd be reading the comics, and very few people are. It's the biggest area of criticism he gets for Watchmen. When directors want to do an adaptation of Jane Austen, they take inspiration from her books, but don't obsess over every comma. Nolan didn't recreate comic book panels. They worried about their movie making sense .. as a movie. The technique of recreating the details of a comic book panel makes the movie move like molasses, as we linger over trivialities. The director get so proud of himself "Look! This scene is exactly copied from the panel! Aren't you proud of my lack of imagination!" And the audience telling him over and over again "No, we don't care about faithful depiction of comic book panels. We don't care about comic books period. We care about the characters that may have originated in comic books, but only as they are utilized outside of comics." These fanboy directors keep crawling so far up their own butts, then can't understand why their audience shrinks and shrinks and shrinks. Scott Pilgrim. Watchmen. It's all the same. Appeal to a niche within a niche and forget that the mass audience must be served. 90 percent of all comic book writers are terrible. Poor plotters, with terrible dialogue, they write soap operas for middle aged manchilds. If they were good writers they would be writing scripts and novels instead of earning dirt wages in a dying medium. Snyder's lack of understanding of this is what is destroying his career.

    • Zzzzzzzzzzz says:

      ^^^^Idiot fanboy, who cries when a movie is not faithful enough to the source and then whines and cries more when it is too faithful?

      Watchmen was a solid film actually. Deal with it.

      This next Superman film will be the one us fans have been waiting to see for the past 30 years!

    • Guest says:

      "These fanboy directors keep crawling so far up their own butts, then can't understand why their audience shrinks and shrinks and shrinks."
      Really? You should do some more research. "Watchmen" made over a 107 million dollars in 2009. 14 million people went to see that movie. And It was rated R – Not PG or even PG-13. The rating system effects the numbers. The movie wasn't made for kids and that's a huge factor in ticket sales. Regardless; The numbers clearly show that Science Fiction films still do well at the theaters.

      • Nick Vanetta says:

        You’re right, Watchmen did gross over $107 million domestic in 2009, but the budget was $130 million. It probably made up for it by taking in $185 mil worldwide and with DVDs, merchandise, etc. but considering the promotional/advertising costs there’s a chance it might have just broken even. In short, some bad word of mouth was spread that kept bigger audiences away from the movie.

        Like it or not, these are the real numbers the studios and producers use to gauge a film’s success, and by that standard (which is applied to all films released theatrically) it was only a minor hit — no matter how many numbers of people saw, and loved it.

    • show says:

      That is the best advice Snyder will ever get, but he is too dumb to take it. Witness the way he speaks in interviews. He sounds completely dim. Lights are on but nobody is home.

    • Gokhan Ersan says:

      Very good review, Knossos. To make a meaningful movie of Superman you need an intellectual with a deep sensibility of film as a medium. I don't know where you can find that director in today's Hollywood! My best hope is that Zach Snyder will grow as a filmmaker and an intellectual in the process. I think that's what happened to Richard Donner. He was no Orson Welles to begin with, but because he got so passionate about doing Superman right, he was able to go above and beyond his abilities to gave audiences one of the most moving, and exhilarating of movies. Superman is not just a strong-man. He is also an ethical principle: an Immanuel Kant in tights. In addition, he is a small town boy who struggles to make in in the big city; while he is an aristocrat from another planet. It is a hell lot to deal with. They need a great script/dialogue writer tough. (Not that one-dimensional comic book writer Goyer).

      • fantomex9 says:

        This is also what Bryan Singer captured, but everybody said that his version of Superman was 'too wimpy, 'gay' and 'wussy'. My fear is that he will be like Ah-nuld, saying 'I'll be back' and all of the other tough-guy stuff, instead of being himself as he is now in the books, plus

        I WANT TO SEE HULK CALIBER POWER SHOWS
        I WANT A BUS THROWN
        I WANT CRATERS IN PAVEMENT FROM THROWING BAD GUYS
        I WANT HIM TO HEAT VISION THE EVERLIVING SNOT OUT OF WHOEVER IS THE VILLAIN.

        That's all that we will get out of this new movie if Warner Bros. and Snyder aren't too careful.

  4. Dum Dum Dugan says:

    I WANT TO SEE HULK CALIBER POWER SHOWS
    I WANT A BUS THROWN
    I WANT CRATERS IN PAVEMENT FROM THROWING BAD GUYS
    I WANT HIM TO HEAT VISION THE EVERLIVING SNOT OUT OF WHOEVER IS THE VILLAIN.

    The contemplative calm cool collected last son of Krypton has been covered. Covered better than I think Snyder can even approach.
    And the last superman movie was almost completely devoid of any evidence that Superman is the strongest fictional character in the history of anything.

    The only solution is Punisher:MAX style grit and fire that we KNOW Snyder can deliver.
    That is a side of Superman I think a lot of movie fans are missing.

    Oh and a decent story close to comic cannon would be nice too hahaha

    • froppy says:

      @Dum Dum Dugan

      Actually, the last Superman movie was the first to show the massive amount of strength he actually had in his arms. I don't know if you remember, but he manages to pick up an entire continent made of Kryptonite and dirt directly off of the planet. This includes tearing it from the earth itself and flying it to space.

      Man this was fun. It's been a while since I geeked out online and gave my opinion. Love it.

      • Dum Dum Dugan says:

        Alright. You got me on that one. Its been a while I had to go back and watch it. I am man enough to admit that scene was boss. Thumbs up.

        But i was referring more towards FIGHTS! The main villain has always been Luthor. Except for the one with Zod and his posse, but even that one – Luthor! Now I am as much a fan of everyones favorite paunchy bald dude as the next superfan, and intellectual villains are always in the realm of awesome in my opinion.

        However Luthor is just a man.
        With Christopher Nolan's name on this as producer people are going to want to see the gritty harsh but almost slightly plausible light associated with the recent Batman films shown in this film. With Snyder as director people will think of the hyper-violence-explosions-awwwwyeah-awesome associated with 300 and Watchmen.
        The only way to mix the american icon that is Superman with both gritty-semi-realism and violent-visual-eyecandy-awesome-action is to use a villain that can both handle the abuse of Super-rage as well as giving it back as good as he gets. I am talking late 80's early 90's kinda BOOOOOOMSHACKALACKA!! I guess Zod would be cool again I suppose. Heck if Bane is getting a second chance at the big screen treatment – Why cant Zod?

      • fantomex9 says:

        Dugan, 'the test of a person is not always from without, it's from within!' (a paraphrase of a quote from Michael Dorn as Worf on Star Trek: The Next Generation.)

        I swear to the Fates, people like you are going to be the death of this new movie at the box office or in the entertainment section of the newspapers when the critics start to review it.

      • Wilson says:

        Actually, lifting the island in Returns was a display of one of his greatest, yet most-unknown powers- willpower.
        It wasn't upperbody strength alone…

    • Osterman says:

      As long as Supes consists of matter- Dr.Manhattan would turn him into an icecream cone before Superman could even think about what to do in response.
      Sorry, but he's not the 'strongest fictional character ever'. But nice try.

      • kdc says:

        Dr. Manhattan is cool and Superman is my fav but God would be the strongest fictional character ever

      • Bob says:

        Most powerful character, maybe (though the Spectre is clearly in the running). But for strongest (as in lifting/smashing/muscular strength), my vote's for Superman. Doc Manhattan is above that sort of thing.

  5. 4real says:

    If the terrible looking Sucker Punch bombs, will he still be directing this movie?

  6. huh says:

    This movie is still happening?

    shame

  7. Jason says:

    I wanna see is kinetic energy moving stuff, I wanna see devastation on behalf of his powers. This is an example of what I want to see; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQUZDbNaXKE

  8. Alex D says:

    So, basically, it's a "reboot", which in English means "a remake of a remake."

  9. Contrarian says:

    Knossos, you've got it backwards. On the contrary, when the filmmakers paid attention to the comics and accurately captured its spirit, those movies were the most successful. Case in point: Sam Raimi's 'Spider-Man,' the first 'Iron Man' movie….The Marvel superhero movies that escaped the Hollywood trap of grounding everything in 'reality' with costumes in the mode of 'Matrix,' 'Blade,' etc. and gave the audiences the characters in their actual costumes, with storylines carefully ripped from the pages of their comics, were the ones that received both critical and commercial success. The other types ('Daredevil,' 'Elektra,' etc.) bombed.

    Also, comics may be a dying industry, but artistically the medium is more diverse and thriving more than ever. The fact that the medium has spawned movies as diverse as the Marvel/DC stuff, Scott Pilgrim, History of Violence, Road to Perdition, Men in Black, Persepolis, etc. proves you wrong, Knossos. Go back to your cave and give my regards to Bin Laden while you're at it…

    • jaja says:

      hmm. all the examples in your first paragraph prove pretty much the exact opposite of what you are trying to say. nice try tho.

    • gokhan ersan says:

      The first two Superman movies, too, succeeded because "filmmakers paid attention to the comics and accurately captured its spirit." Yet, what Knossos means is that Watchmen, 300, Sin City, etc. were movies that visualized the comics note-for-note, ending up portraying a flat world with flat characters. Synder did not make the necessary translation of these comics into the live-action drama of the film medium. His second point is that, the successful comic book movies were written by people who understood the film medium (Tom Mankiewicz) or were skillful literary writers (Puzo, Michael Chabon). In Watchmen, you could see Mr. Snyder was growing as a filmmaker and story teller. Let's hope he really goes above and beyond his abilities with Superman. Snyder has the passion that Singer lacked. And what better subject matter than Superman to get passionate about and to remake oneself creatively. I hope he doesn't start shooting until the last minute of their 2013 legal deadline. Donner really took his time with the first Superman and it turned out to be a lasting movie!

  10. robert says:

    Christopher Reeve and Tom Welling are the only Superman!!!

    • He Who Lurks says:

      Tom Welling has yet to play Superman. Among actors who've played CLARK KENT, he should absolutely be listed. But he has yet to play SUPERMAN.

      …and to those who would insist he's played a VERSION of Superman, I would then say his Superman pales to those who have come before.

    • Guest says:

      Reeve did a nice conservative version of Supes. Hardly the actual character from the comics. In many ways Reeves helped cripple the franchise because most only know his version and didn't bother to pay attention to anything else, like the comics. Smallville is more true to the personal attributes of Superman than the Reeves movies were. It's likely why I like it better. Snyder will create a better movie than anyone in the past. The question is, "Will anyone give it an honest chance? Or will they complain it's not Reeves hack job version?"

    • Scott says:

      you are so right, hands down.

    • Rebecca says:

      Chris Reeve will ALWAYS BE SUPERMAN TO ME.

  11. IdiotsRUs says:

    Sucker Punch looks freakin awesome actually. Hot chicks, wearing skimpy outfits and kicking ass. Great entertainment and fun if you ask me….with some great action and visuals. Do any of you have a pulse? Or are you just on bad drugs like everyone else in La La Land? LOL

    Snyder collaborating with Nolan= Dream Team

  12. Superman says:

    Alot of these comments are extremely ignorant. There is something to be said about a director who takes such a character which such a cinematic history and simply evolves it. It is time to get away from the Donner/Reeves depiction and homages as well as the ignorant Tom Welling hopes. Snyder has recognized the concept of finally getting back to the source material when it comes to Superman. Superman in comparison to a lot of the superheroes is an extremely visual character. Everything about him and his story has been envisioned in such an epic, fantastical and visual way and who better to recreate and rejuvenate that than a director who has, arguably, been one of the few artists to truly change the game in terms of visualizing movies for our generation. Also i think there is something admirable and respectful to Snyder's approach in tackling such a challenging and epically overwhelming character and story by simply showing such enthusiasm and vigor about diving in fully when tackling this project. Despite story objections, this man knows how to shoot a movie and make it look expensive and visually stunning if anything. He takes visual chances, which i think is pretty rare in today's films. I don't know about you guys but in today's world of cinema, i not only want to be moved by brilliant story telling and character development but i would like to see my 8 bucks go towards something that will visually enthrall and immerse me as well. One could make the same argument about Avatar. As much as i loved the story, there wasn't anything too original about, but the reason why it worked and why James Cameron manged to change the game and single handedly save the movie industry was because he did something visually spectacular. I think that is something to think about when talking about Superman and who's hands he is in now. And as much as the Reeves/Donner Superman was loved, the cheese was admittedly present within those movies and to add to that, Singer and the creators of Smallville only managed to add to that existing Donner vision of Superman, no one had attempted to do anything original just because they were too cautious in handling Superman. In my opinion, Zack Snyder is saying all the right things at this point and just like Sucker Punch this movie will be an undoubted success. Or to be fair to all of you, a doubted and a pleasantly surprising success.

    • Funstuff says:

      Very well said and I agree with everything you just wrote. My only question is, where the hell are you seeing movies for 8 bucks a pop?

    • Gökhan Ersan says:

      I agree with you that Zach Synder's enthusiasm should give us all hope that he will do Superman right. If he is given enough time to develop the movie, I am confident that he will grow as a filmmaker, story teller, and an intellectual in the process. That's what happened to Donner. I mean, to tackle a character who is an alien aristocrat, a small town boy trying to make it in the big city, a super-powered being who needs to make the best judgment in using those powers is not for the faint-hearted. From what I saw in Watchmen, I can tell that Mr. Synder already can add beauty and grandeur to dramatic action scenes, and certain bits of the movie (like night owl's relationship with Silk Spectre) tells me that he is also learning how to add depth to character.

    • Superfreak says:

      …"just like Sucker Punch this movie will be an undoubted success"…Errrr….Sucker Punch bombed at the box office, and based on the negative reviews and word of mouth, it's unlikely it will make money. Sucker Punch flopped, big time.

  13. yragcom1 says:

    Zack Snyder has got it exactly right. Every good superhero movie in the last 10 years has followed that mantra: respect the canon. It's why the Raimi Spider-Man and the Singer X-Men movies did so well.

  14. E.J. Apostrophe says:

    If anyone has seen the iconic trailer to DC Universe online, now THAT is how Superman needs to be. We are talking about the most powerful alien in the universe and he needs a threat as big as life itself. No more General Zods, no more Nuclear Man, no more pansy villians…we need to see the Man of Steel kick butt and take names. Mr. Snyder, make us fanboys proud!

  15. DJE says:

    you two last guys to comment are idiots. This movie is going to be awesome…go watch Smallville or some crap like that

  16. ZuperZero says:

    THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!!

    "Superman is the most recognizable superhero on the planet but also the most unknown. Just what he can be? People have preconceived ideas about him but probably all of them are wrong.”

    i'm totally agree!, people needs to know the Superman from the Comics since 1986

    • RudeCherub says:

      But what exactly exists from 86? Ma Kent is alive, and that’s about the only change to mythos that stuck, every thing else is back, Supergirl, Krypto, Superboy=Kal-El.

      If anything the movie should channel 1938, and include a scene where Superman throws a wife beater through a wall shouting “you’re not fighting a woman now” rather the 86 Superman who “Shook with fear” on a mountain in Tibet when a crowd got out of hand. 1938 Superman handled a crowd trying to lynch a man without running away.

    • shop says:

      The comics are now awful. Superman is walking across the country and being sanctimonious d*. Secret Origins was boring and awful. The comic sales on Superman just keep falling because everybody hates their direction.

  17. The Blur 28 says:

    Tom Welling is should be the new Superman

    • wells says:

      Welling would have been brilliant, but the fate of the movie doesn't lay with any actor. No actor could have saved Superman Returns. Writing and directing are what matter. Cavill would have to be a whole order of otherworldly hideous to destroy great writing and directing. I would go so far as to say that it is impossible. Goyer is hammering out the script and Snyder can direct action in his sleep. I have faith in them.

    • Norman says:

      I love Smallville, but Tom Welling has been playing Clark Kent for 10 years not Superman. Even now into season 10 he hasn't really shown much of Superman.

  18. Scotty V says:

    I would agree with most of what Snyder is saying here. As much as I love the original Donner films for the part of my childhood they bring back and the first true realization of the first and best in film, we really need to see what Superman is and what he can be. It sounds to me as though Snyder may really have that in mind and that he knows cannon is important, but that we need something different than what's been done before on film.

    I've got great hope that we'll see some wonderful things from this film. We can't know for sure until we get there, but if we can get fanatastically and visually stunning scenes shot in a realistic way and yet within the genre outside that reality and great use of powers we'll have something wonderful to look at. Most important though, and something I haven't yet seen at least from the Snyder movies I've watched, developed characters that make us think and feel emotions and connection that makes us want them to succeed, be happy and return again and again.

  19. johnrj08 says:

    Snyder must know that making a film about this character will be like walking through a minefield. So many things can go awry. He can get everything right but one thing, and that one thing will be what people talk about. If he gets the suit wrong. Makes the S too big or too small. If he doesn't get the spit curl just right or the boots. If the take offs and landings aren't just right. If Lois plays too big a role in the film. If the Kents aren't important enough, or they're too important. So many things that Snyder needs to execute perfectly, when there is no real generally accepted standard for any of them.

  20. keithxk says:

    Sounds great. Snyder has a remarkable visual style with unique storytelling. With him, Nolan and Goyer at the drivers seat, I'm honestly excited. The fact that they got a dude who A) looks smart and B) looks buff for Superman is a great start. Get away from the lanky, toned look of Reeve, but you don't have to go as far as 300 buff. Cavill has a great look.

  21. RudeCherub says:

    So does this mean we won’t get the Movie-verse “Something Evil from Krypton Comes” AGAIN with Zod and or Ursa, and or Kryptonite, etc but a real villain who isn’t Lex Luthor again?

    I mean we could do Superman vs Independence day aliens with Mongul, Superman vs the Terminator with Brainiac or personally I’d like to see Superman vs Darth Vader in Darksied.

  22. trollhunter says:

    Anyone who says that they won't be seeing this film because Tom "LOUSY ACTOR" Welling is not Superman, has ZERO credibility as far as I'm concerned! Good riddance, that you or your lot will NOT be in theater when this EPIC Superman film hits the screen. LOL

    Snyder+Nolan= Superman Dream Team!

    • trolls indeed says:

      Seems like you are the troll, since no one has said that here. But now that you bring it up …

      That sore point of not casting Welling is going to dog this production forever. That can't be helped. Just like in Superman Returns, the movie will open and then people will reassess how they feel about the whole thing. Plenty enough people came to like Routh afterwords.

    • zylon says:

      Tom is a good actor. Yes I would have loved for him to don the costume. But Chris said this incarnation is different than the other icarnations. I am tired of people like you comparing all actors who put on the costume to Chris Reeve. Just like all the people that went and saw SW. You can't do that, everybody is not CR. Brandon Routh and Tom Welling did the job the best as they could. What was wrong with SR was the supporting actors.

  23. Rachael says:

    Cavill is a travesty and kids won't respect him, but the fact that the production company is so scared of him getting 300 big, and actually looking like Superman is the bigger travesty. They go on and on about how scared they are of Cavill getting too big. One of the many ways this movie is already doomed.

    • WellingSucks! says:

      Easily one of the STUPIDEST things I have ever heard from a whiny Wellingite!

      You have ZERO credibility!

      • YouTrollsSuck says:

        Rachael didn't say anything about Welling. Why are you trolling so hard, trying to incite a fan war? This is so damaging to the movie franchise. Fan wars can rile a portion of fandom up enough to skip the movie. Then everyone suffers, as the press says nobody cares about Superman anymore.

  24. Robert Luna says:

    I really hope they ask John Williams to do the music or at least borrow the theme music.

  25. NORDS says:

    Do whatever you want with the movie except dont mess with the music. If they dont bring back the John William theme … forget my money on this one.

  26. bad faith says:

    I don't even know why they forced you to retract the statement about Costner, if they were just going to release the final confirmation later in the day. That is a dirt bag move by the studio.

  27. Wes says:

    Hopefully went dont get a mind funk twist like Superman has a kid again, that was the biggest writing fail since Matrix Revelations

    • fantomex9 says:

      Yeah, according to you, Superman having a kid was heinous-but only to you. I loved the idea, and wish that they could run with it in a next movie, but the Great Unwashed Ignorant Masses have spoken, and they want a new Superman, so a new Superman movie they'll get. with all of the same action bits as seen in umpteen other movies, just to satisfy people like yourself.

      And, pray tell, what exactly was wrong with Matrix Revolutions? Don't you know that the 'good guys' don't always win? That some conflicts end in a stalemate or draw? That was what happened, at least Zion survives to fight another day.

  28. ben says:

    Thay need to put a big villin not lex luther this time put someone with powers like "Doomsday" or "Braineack" someone who superman cant just walk up and flick the dude an its done.

  29. ScottW says:

    Comics are for "middle aged manchilds", "Sucker Punch looks terrible"…both of these statements strike me as the kind of statement either a pretentious literary twit would say or a Wall Street investment banker with absolutely no imagination or aesthetic sensibility would say…who "lives life" specializing in gaudy suits, a dull personality, a "realistic" outlook on life, ignoring and boring his wife and children, bad sex and compensating for his empty soullessness by accumulating money and screwing over people at the same time…in short, the modern practical utilitarian nitwit that makes life miserable for everyone around him while calling that "progress". Guess what…its "manchildren" that the women enjoy being around and having sex with. It "manchildren" who kids like and dogs don't growl at.

  30. jay says:

    NO Lex Luthor No way…… We are fed up with seeing Lex Luthor in every superman movie and serial.

  31. Jimmy Olsen says:

    When Clark Kent's shirt tears open to reveal the S shield I better be hearing the John Williams theme music. That is my only deal-breaker. Bryan Singer screwed that up with the first "shield reveal" in SR and it ruined the movie for me.

  32. Emory says:

    What can I say about Superman movies!? Nothing, the kid in me likes all Super hero movies. Thanks for bringing this to the movies!

  33. Bill Tello says:

    Hopefully they do not deviate from the core canon that Superman is a boyscout who loves his adopted planet and refuses to kill. If they deviate from this, they have lost me.

  34. Cory Morr says:

    Bring back Brandon Routh. Superman Returns sucked, but it had emotion and content. The action sucked, but the emotion was so dramatic it invoked the spiritual side of a humanoid's humanity. It's that kind of certain in-depth chemistry that is lacking in today's film industry. That is what makes a great comic book movie. Superman had heart and soul in Superman Returns.

    I want to see Brandon Routh come back and him give better directions. I liked Brandon Routh. Give the guy a another chance and make it better with more intense action. It wasn't Brandon Routh's fault, but it was Bryan Singer's instead. We should call the next Superman film:

    "BRANDON ROUTH RETURNS."

  35. Cory Morr says:

    Bring back Brandon Routh. The guy wasn't given a fair chance. Bryan Singer really screwed the direction for him. I liked Brandon Routh as Superman. Give Brandon another shot to fly again.

  36. Jeff says:

    Bryan Singer's superman was doomed because he made a sequel to the Reeve's Superman movies. That's why they cast who they did. It was a horrible mistake and was a stupid idea. He got overconfident after X-men (which by the way, the second movie was horrible, seriously, do u WANT to watch X2?) and unlike Batman Begins and The Dark Knight I don't feel an urge to go watch all the marvel movies over and over again. Well Iron Man a little, but mostly because they did the same thing that Batman did, they took a look at the character and brought it into the present day, they didnt try and bring the entire story and world into the present day like Singer did with Superman.

    The Marvel movies have been good money makers, the Batman movies have been some of the best movies out. As long as they stay away from the need to hire actors based on their name or some sense of fame then they should be fine. (IE the guy who played Eric from that 70's show being Eddie Brock, not even close to canon from the comics as Eddie is supposed to be an ex-football player… or just Michael Cera as Scott Pilgrim (the movie was awesome, if u cut out every one of his speaking lines and non-action scenes)

    In fact I can't think of a single good movie role that was performed excellently because the actor they hired was a big name. (Think of Batman Forever and Batman and Robin for pretty much every role but Alfred) Movies may have been good, but the role wasn't well played because of the name.

  37. Funk7000 says:

    PLEASE WHATEVER YOU DO, KEEP THE JOHN WILLIAMS MUSIC THE SAME!!!

  38. sylvisprestone says:

    Just do the Red Son storyline & it'll be sweet. Superman vs. Batman. WOOOOT!

  39. Keith says:

    Everyone but the Right Person for THe Job Tom Welling

  40. Chris Green says:

    Speaking as a comic book fan,(along with being a fan of pretty much every incarnation of Superman in media including Smallville) I am willing to give Zack Synder his chance , after the wack “Clark’s son storyline” of “Superman Returns”, don’t get me wrong the super feats was cool, (Saving Metropolis, the plane save, lifting the island ) he can’t possibly do worse than the last 2 Superman movies.. Ignore the last movies and do a update and i would like to see another foe besides Luthor … someone that can challenge Supes in a fight… I’ll wait for more details before judging….

  41. SydField2.0 says:

    Looking forward to it. By the way, you guys know the one in the first pic is Mark Ruffalo, right?

  42. TIm says:

    Iconic… that's what Superman is.

    Any Fanboy worth his weight in hot pockets and reads any of the comics which depict our great hero will understand simply that Superman must remain the iconic man of steel of the books. The Lois has superman's son was the most ignorant representation of the character of the man of Steel to date. His stealing a night in the Fortress with lois in copulation was preposterous for the man who ALWAYS does the right thing.

    If Cavill gets one thing right, it must be the character of the man. Test his character, yes, definitely. Test his character to the limits of our human understanding, but Superman must pass that test by ALWAYS doing the right thing.

    Give us the Powerful Bone Crushing might of the man who could move the moon from it's orbit with a single punch. Give us the courage of the man who stood toe to toe with doomsday in the face of imminent death. Give us the man of steel who will shed a tear at the injustice of the world and then lay down his life gladly to correct that mistake.

    Don't compromise the morality of Superman.

    Don't compromise the integrity of Superman.

    Don't give us a mediocre Lex Luthor.

    Don't give us a villian who is unworthy of the power of the man of steel.

    The best thing the director could do at this point would be to read the current storyline beginning in Superman #700 to get a feel for what the true character of Superman is all about.

    Piss on what the media, or those who have no knowledge of the Man of Steel save the previous movies, Give the true fanboys what they deserve, a Superman to look up to and be proud of.

    For Truth, Justice, and the American way.

  43. xeno says:

    tss no Tom Welling as superman, i don't have to see this movie….
    only Tom is good for the role as superman, nobody else…

  44. Fabrizio says:

    Um, for those wishing for the John Williams theme I'm sorry it ain't gonna be happening! Didn't you read the article?

  45. Ben says:

    Has Snyder also considered what has been going on on the small screen? Smallville? Does this at least play into the movie in some way? Bottom line: anything that tests Superman's boy scout morals, and sees him stick to his guns despite enormous sacrifice, is why we love Superman. I think Smallville has done a pretty good job with this premise: Superman has the power to rule and/or destroy the world, but because of his upbringing, uses that power to fight evil and do good. Any test of that is the conflict we see in ourselves. Like all superheroes, we hold him up as an ideal we all want to be. If Snyder decides to make him like us, then we've lost the mythos.

    • Steve Talley says:

      To make the Smallville Clark/Blur/Someday Superman they would have to ignore all but the first three seasons of Smallville, before he became sexually active with both Lana & Lois.

      I have watched ever single episode of Smallville since day one as they aired except one, and that was because of Hurricane Ike, and I hold the honor of being a KryptonSite moderator.

      But, honestly I don't think Tom Welling not portraying the Man Of Steel will take away from what looks to be a promising film.

  46. tom says:

    superman returns was a definate dissapointment, i look forward to seeing a superman film that doeent have influences from the past movies, although if it doesent have the origional score then whats the point lol

  47. Tim says:

    wow, there's a lot of "I" in that article. You really dont need to tell us that you asked a question, that's kind of understood. keep yourself out of the story, egoboy.

  48. Eugene says:

    All I have to say is WHY???
    I'm not a hater, but this story has been done. Why do it again. I mean how many years of comics have been written? and you want to to the beginning again? Although I have to say it worked for batman begins. (my favorite batman flick). I do hope there is a different villian besides lex luther…
    nuff said.

  49. silvershadowfly says:

    At first I was a little skeptical over Zack Snyder as I'm not a huge fan of his work, though it looks great on screen, but knowing that Nolan and Thomas are working on this film together along with Snyder is a positive outlook. Their work is incredible and Snyder will always run it by them and vice versa. I think the Superman remake is in safe hands.

  50. Gary bell says:

    With smallville already done, have you considered tom welling as the new superman. After seeing him in the costume, he’s the perfect actor for his character, plus I think erica durance should play lois again.

  51. fan says:

    Glad there making a new movie. Superman needs to fight someone who poses a challenge to him. You can still have Lex but save him for a sequel as the main villain. Just dont change the suit. It is iconic and if you change it radically most people wont like it. I think the Superman Returns suit will work fine. Its more modern but still has the classic look.

  52. zylon says:

    I too am glad they are going away from the previous incarnations of Superman. Only thing I dont like is that they are going to have another score for the movie. To me they should keep the same score. To me and other people I know knows when u hear that score everyone thinks Superman. Even to those who has never seen the movies. Since they are not using it the score better be as good as the other one. If not the movie will bomb and Warner Bros will loose money.

  53. Glen says:

    The thing that made "Superman Returns" good was that Brandon Routh's lack of mugging, unlike Christopher Reeves' constant grimacing. Tom Wellington isn't remotely close to who Superman was. Lots of facial expression — and words — but little of Superman's depth. And frankly, as someone who's read Superman since 1961 and watched all the changes he's gone through, I place little stock in someone whose idea of Superman is Tom Welling (who in NO way resembled Superboy. Even in the early Superboy comics, he was known to the public when still a teenager. Smallville? Nobody knew who the hell Superboy was until the end. Stupid, stupid, stupid. A contrived plot with blowouts to hide Superman's very existence, except. Except. The BAD GUYS knew he existed, but the public didn't? This'd fly if you're 22, not if you're 62 and actually have a sense of history. The number of dumb traps Welling got caught in were absurd. He has the reflexes of David Spade, instead of being able to move faster than the speed of light.
    So, Mr S (for Snyder), if you're gonna make a Superman movie, please don't make him stupid and caught off guard as in, X-Men (Storm was pathetic, she never anticipated ANYone's moves in advance and Wolverine was absolutely contemptible as a fighter. Everyone he fought beat him, except for the last 30 seconds of any fight), Thor (I didn't even both to watch it other than the trailers), Green Lantern (a young, dumb, full of….muscle). Captain America actually had reflexes: he responded instantly. Superman should respond instantaneously, for those of you who know the difference (and many of you don't).
    I know nothing about Cavill, so no comment there. But Fishburne as Perry White?!? Fishburne would be okay if he wasn't such a depressed person. Perry White was anything but depressed. He had a joy of life in the comics that belied his gruff, tough, exterior. Fishburne will be at tremendous pains to learn how to exhibit joy — that's why he plays either angry or depressed characters (same as Samuel Jackson: both cut from the same cloth) in any movie he's in.
    I await a movie besides Superman Returns, that shows Superman's CHARACTER: noble, dignified, smart (movies seem to forget Superman came from a race (and parental heritage) of brilliance and genius. I liked Chris Reeves, even saw Superman when it first came out in 1978, and, by that point, having read Superman comic books since 1961, wasn't overwhelmed, although he was the only one who had Superman's curly lock of hair over his forehead (or don't you guys even realize that that was his "look) until around 1985??? and looked genuine. Reeves was kind, which Superman's parents taught him, so he was decent, but Routh had it DOWN. Cavill has BIG shoes to fill. And so does Snyder, unless he only wants to impress the under-30, don't-know-their-history, crowd. Of course, these types of movies are made to appeal to teenagers, not those who have a pespective on life. Good Luck, S.

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  55. frank says:

    SUPERMAN IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! let it be!!!!!!!

  56. Joel says:

    I think snyder should reboot the Movie Elektra Assassin, that would be so cool. it would have to be loaded with all kinds of action scenes. and would need to be dark and elektra would have to be RED HOT

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