‘Walking Dead': Glen Mazzara on the woman in white, Edgar Allan Poe

Feb. 11, 2013 | 8:01 a.m.
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Carol (Melissa Suzanne McBride), left, Carl Grimes (Chandler Riggs) and Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Carl Grimes (Chandler Riggs), Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) and Carol (Melissa Suzanne McBride) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Andrea (Laurie Holden) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Andrea (Laurie Holden) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Daryl Dixon (Norman Reedus) and Merle Dixon (Michael Rooker) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Tina Rowden / AMC)

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Daryl Dixon (Norman Reedus) and Merle Dixon (Michael Rooker) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Tina Rowden / AMC)

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Andrea (Laurie Holden) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Tina Rowden / AMC)

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Daryl Dixon (Norman Reedus) and Merle Dixon (Michael Rooker) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Tina Rowden / AMC)

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The Governor (David Morrissey) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Tina Rowden / AMC)

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The Governor (David Morrissey) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Tina Rowden / AMC)

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Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Tina Rowden / AMC)

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Daryl Dixon (Norman Reedus), Maggie Greene (Lauren Cohan), Merle Dixon (Michael Rooker) and Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Maggie Greene (Lauren Cohan), Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) and Daryl Dixon (Norman Reedus) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Merle Dixon (Michael Rooker), Daryl Dixon (Norman Reedus), Maggie Greene (Lauren Cohan) and Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Maggie Greene (Lauren Cohan) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Merle Dixon (Michael Rooker) in a scene from an episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Former Pittsburgh Steelers receiver Hines Ward guest stars as a walker in Sunday's episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Former Pittsburgh Steelers receiver Hines Ward, who also popped up in "The Dark Knight Rises," gets made up as a zombie for his guest appearance in "The Walking Dead." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Former Pittsburgh Steelers receiver Hines Ward, left, and special effects makeup artist Kevin Wasner show off Hines' jersey number in bruises on the back of his head. Hines makes a guest appearance as a walker in Sunday's episode of "The Walking Dead," "The Suicide King." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Former Pittsburgh Steelers receiver Hines Ward on the set of "The Walking Dead." (Gene Page / AMC)

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Former Pittsburgh Steelers receiver and Super Bowl XL MVP Hines Ward guest stars as a walker in "The Walking Dead." (Gene Page / AMC)

AMC’s hit zombie series “The Walking Dead” returned Sunday for the second part of its third season, with an action-packed installment titled “The Suicide King” that saw Woodbury collapse into chaos and Rick Grimes continue to grapple with his sanity. His hallucinations, it seems, are becoming increasingly more troubling.

(Anyone who missed Sunday’s episode might want to stop reading now.)

There was little doubt that the spectral figure dressed in white that appeared near the end of the episode was the ghost of Rick’s wife Lori come back to haunt him. Outgoing “Walking Dead” show runner Glen Mazzara said in an interview with Hero Complex last week that he was deliberately looking to evoke classic horror image with the scene; when Rick sees the figure, he becomes so distraught that his discussion with Tyrese and his group takes a turn that it might not otherwise have taken.

Mazzara said that the pale apparition triggered a moment of uncertainty for actor Andrew Lincoln, who plays the former lawman on the series. The character seems to be shattering under the weight of immense grief, let alone the pressures of leading others to safety in a world overrun by the undead. Oh, and there’s that Governor fellow to contend with too.

But Mazzara pointed out that this isn’t the first time Rick has seen or heard something that wasn’t actually there; previously it was his best friend turned mortal enemy Shane who came calling.

“When that script came out, he called me and questioned it,” Mazzara said. “He wondered if that was within the type of storytelling we were doing. I thought it was completely set up because his original hallucination was on the phone, related to his wife. [In the midseason finale] we had the visual hallucination of Shane, so now to go for this classic horror vision of a ghostly figure in a wedding dress, I’m drawing on Edgar Allan Poe. That is a classic horror trope.

“I don’t believe Andy is a horror fan; I sort of talked him through this and said, ‘You’ll have to trust me.’ It was different for us to do a scene for us, but what worked was his performance. He was so distraught, it affects him to make the wrong decision and cast Tyrese out, so that vision isn’t just there as a shock moment; it affects the character.”

– Gina McIntyre

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31 Responses to ‘Walking Dead': Glen Mazzara on the woman in white, Edgar Allan Poe

  1. @ACCDOC says:

    Here is my commentary on the social and psychological symbolism of last night's episode. It includes thoughts on the Governor's eyepatch, blood being thicker than water and ethical codes. http://www.squidoo.com/walking-dead-symbols-as-so

    • Dave says:

      I found your Blog interesting as to the symbolism of different elements of the show. The one thing that turned me off in the beginning is the reference to Fox news "beware of leaders or media outlets (like Fox News) who stir up a mob through manipulation and then claim they are only doing what "the people" want."

      The same can be said toward more liberal media outlets. What I consider truth and common sense could be classified as something different by Liberals. We can turn this into a political disucssion, but I would rather keep it focused on a great show.

  2. Lawrence Mayo says:

    I, unlike the previous poster, was not (and am not) a reader of the comic, so I am less bound by adherence to TWD canon.

    That said, this episode was a solid MEH for me. There seems to be almost too much group fragmentation going on for my tastes. I get that Merle can't go into the prison, but no way is Daryl going to just strike out into the wild world without a solid shelter plan. That's just suicide. Besides, Daryl is too loved a character to just write off like this.

    Not sure why Rick is breaking down without emotional stimuli, as well. There's nothing that would have triggered the Lori apparition, in fact, aside from a true clinical psychosis (in which case Rick needs to have his gun removed) nothing that I can see would have caused this episode. Might have been better handled as a terrifying nightmare, whereinwhich we ALL work through difficult stuff.

    (CONTINUED)

    • Chord says:

      "Not sure why Rick is breaking down without emotional stimuli, as well. There's nothing that would have triggered the Lori apparition, "

      Except for his wife dying days if not hours ago (in the show world) and what seems to be no sleep at all…

      • Searambler says:

        At one point last night, they mentioned the baby was a week old. So it's been a week since Lori died. With all the other stuff going on, Rick's internalized grief has to come out somewhere and somewhen…..

    • Damion says:

      He isn't written off. He'll be back. Watch the rest of the season before assuming that's it for Daryl.

    • Cameron says:

      Be patient, good things come to those who wait.

  3. Lawrence Mayo says:

    It seemed the governor was out of character. Daryl was out of character. Rick was out of character. The continuity has been lost. Please reestablish more believeable and in-character responses. This is a series tangentally about zombies but primarily about character development.

    PS Do not think we noticed the huge skimping on CGI this particular episode, either.

    • Damion says:

      You do realize this entire season is filmed, edited, and complete, right? The mid-season break isn't so they can finish filming, it is to avoid competition with the holidays/traditionally down ratings for the holiday season. Calling out this particular episode for "skimping on CGI" as though it was just filmed is unfair, as it was filmed along with the previous episode, and the ones before it. Unless your gripe is with the CGI quality of this entire season, it seems you may just be projecting something onto this episode that wasn't actually there.

  4. Pushindazees says:

    I'm with Andrew Lincoln on this one, the Lori apparition was not within the kind of storytelling they're doing on this show. It came from out of nowhere and doesn't make any sense. Equally so, Daryl going off with Merle. We all know Merle would not be welcome at the prison as a member in good standing, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a cell they could have locked him into for the time being and to keep an eye on what he was up too. Andrea finding out about her friends and still seeming to stand by The Governor and Woodbury? That doesn't sit well either, even for Andrea. Something has gone awry in the writing for this episode. I hope the rest of the season makes up for it. That being said, even with all the frustration, its still the best show on tv.

    • Rose says:

      I completely agree, Pushindazees. My husband and I were really looking forward to this episode. My college aged son and I always discuss, by phone or text, every episode. We haven't even contacted each other. The episode lacked suspense, the dialogue was dull, and the story was not a tight one. It was the first time, in three seasons, that we felt nored. The apparition of Lori seemed ludicrous, and just seemed to be used as anither reason for Rick to have yet another breakdown. We were very disappointed in this sorry episode.

  5. DaniBS says:

    The whole thing had my panties in a knot! From the jump I was livid. We go 2 and hald seasons trying to avoid teeth and all the sudden Merle & Daryl just start punching zombie faces. Then the G'nor goes all limp once the real action starts, allowing for a girl to shot and killed, the Dixons to escape, and chaos to ensue.
    Rick and Daryl break up like Daryl was pulling a disguarded tooth and throwing it in the trash. He'll be back but it's a waste of viewers time. Then Rick takes his broken heart out on Michone. "Once you're fixed, you're gone" bs. So within the 1st minute of the show we get all the action and the two best survivalists are down and out. Daryl is MIA and Michone is passed out in the jail. PERFECT! Rest of the show is boring!
    {cont…}

  6. DaniBS says:

    At "Mayberry" Andrea gets to act all bada$$ & shoot a few walkers & then she gets to be savior w/some stupid speech – PLEASE! Someone needs to put a bullet in this scarlets head for me please. BUt if this follows the comics we still get to endure her while she ravages Rick's "goods". Now that should cause some Lori sightings.
    Speaking of Lori… can we please get on with it already. I over the "I see dead people" crap. It the freakin apocalypse for crapssake! Buck up and deal with it! If someone doesn't get a handle on thise writing a lot of people are going to find something to watch Sunday nights. I about changed it back to HBO so I could finish Wrath of Titans.

  7. Josh says:

    I don't see how throwing Tyrese out was incorrect. Tyrese and the woman with him seem fair enough, but they can't keep the other two in check forever. Allowed to stay, those two would cause trouble, whittling the group down to a dangerously small number.

  8. Cuda says:

    DaniBS… I agree completely on the Lori scene… Please put her to rest and away.. it will ruin the show.. and turn it into a soap opra! Please don't!! The show is great.. don't ruin it..

  9. beth says:

    as far as the prison goes, they just got there. for us it has been months, for them it is just days. give it time to play out. there is only 16 shows. they cant do everything in one show

  10. Winsphere Jones says:

    I completely agree. I kept telling people that the creator is money hungry and now he wants to capitalize all the way and if the show becomes Resident Evil then I don't think he cares. It's just like all shows that people start to like….they get "hollywood" but lose their sight on where the show started. I feel sorry for Frank because he had a great concept and he should have only let the show go for 3 seasons and cut….

  11. Reggi3 says:

    Daryl wasn't in the comics…

  12. Sadjaxx says:

    Yeah, they (network guys) just didn't like it and/or didn't want to pay for it. I quit watching after Darabont left, it turned into just another network show but with zombies.

  13. Betty says:

    This last show made no sense at all. It’s really going downhill! I couldn’t wait before to see the next episode, but it’s getting sooooooo boring!! All the interesting characters have been killed off! It’s starting to get kind of “Lostish” for me!!

  14. Adam says:

    What about the person who was watching carol cut open the female zombie? She was practicing on how to do a c section so she could help lori. Did we figure out who that was yet?

  15. Quinton says:

    What do you mean Rick seeing the apparition was out of nowhere. Listen Rick has been taking the stress and lives of this entire group on himself for months. His wife died without him being able to reconsile even though he still loveed her very much. With the stress this character is under we are lucky he hasn't put that gun in his own mouth by now. He has gone days without sleep, endured horrible grief, and oh yeah a hellish world full of mindless zombies that want nothing more than to eat his face off. All of that is enough to make any person hallucinate. Hell the sleep deprivation alone can make you hallucinate. Every tough guy has a breaking point and Rick has reached his. Now he has to get back on track. So look at the story again and tell me that figure came out of nowhere.

  16. me(plural) says:

    The hallucinations are nothing new. Daryl was seeing Merle when searching the woods for Sophia, Rick has battled it a number of times; seeing Shane and talking to Lori on the phone. There is a whole PTSD situation going on. Lack of sleep, constant horrors of zombies as well as the devilish interactions with the living. He's been living in a hypersensitive state. I'm shocked that more people wouldn't have lost it by that point. Think of how messed up Carl SHOULD be in real terms. Rick is bearing the weight of the world on his shoulders. At least there is Herschel who attempts to be the grounding voice since the death of Dale. There is a lot of drama to contend with. That would be the reality.

    • me(plural) says:

      Continued… I have faith that Robert Kirkman would not allow his creation to be sunk down the drain. I have loved the comic and have to mentally separate the two mediums based on story, but in an essence, the feeling is the same. This is about a story of people trying to survive in a nightmare world. Not all decisions are going to be logical. And if you were to look at this as if it were a real situation, I think there would be entire episodes of people curled up and rocking in a fetal position, crying. So if you want to consider this a snore, think about putting it into that sort of real term….

  17. Drink the Kool-Aid says:

    What ever came about with the Tea that Andrea drank and Michone refused when they first got to Woodbury? Remember, the Governor and the scientist kept insisting that Michone drink it but only Andrea did? Then Andrea wanted to stay so bad, but Michone wanted to get the heck out of there. I thought it was some sort of "Kool-Aid" that altered their mindset. Nothing ever came about that. I know this is a random post, but I was just thinking about that.

  18. vicki harbison says:

    I guess I'm one of the few who loved the episode. None of us have ever been under the pressure Rick is ( fyi zombies-not real) but anyone who has go through what Rick has would more than likely be having some issues! The Gov. is a bad guy, after Penny was ( in his mind) killed , he no longer cares about anything. He was holding out some hope that he would get her back. Daryl ( yes one of the many Daryl lovers) made what he thought was the right choice, but if you watched the previews from the break, we see him back at the prison when Andrea gets there. As for Andrea, not a fan of her but was nice to see her step up and try to calm folks down. I can't wait to see next weeks episode!

  19. lbjHeat says:

    *BLEEP* this episode!

  20. peter em says:

    Ya the Feb 10 episode which kicked off the second part of season 2 was not as sharp as the Darabont episodes. It is possible they were trying to set the stage for various plot threads for this season and next.

    Showing that Rick is losing his marbles may set the stage for the other characters to takeover the leadership role for a bit. Maybe a “Glen” centric plotline.

    It looks like the prison will be an “alamo” where the Govenor will attack and the group will be rescued by the “outcasts” like tyreese, Michone, & Darryl / Merle.

    I would like to see no more Lori and less Carl and noooo baby (although killing a zombie baby could be galvanizing for the group) The show should not be trying to please advertisers and network hacks. The ratings are good because the story is good. Stop watering it down with lame ass crap!

    Hey what about bringing back the guy that told Rick about the zombies in season 1 episode 1 !! I would also luv to see a khardashian zombie beheaded by Michone… (if we are doing lame ass stuff!)

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